Christians worried about Islamic radicals

An Autonomous Coptic State?
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علم الحكم الذانى للدوله القبطيه
لن يخضع القبطى لحاكم بلطجى مسلم وقران شيطان
المسلمون كلهم ارهابيون
النشيد الوطنى للدوله القبطيه
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TxzdYzQB0g&NR=1 The Decline of Egypt

Under Sadat's leadership, discrimination against Copts increased. Church leaders came under attack for the first time since the coup d'état of 1952. The conflict reached its height when various priests were arrested and Sadat decided to commit the Coptic pope to an asylum. The church became a target for violence, and Christian women and girls began to be kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam.



Mubarak followed the footsteps of his two predecessors as he furthered the Islamization of Egypt, which in turn increased the level of discrimination against Copts. In nearly thirty years of ruling Egypt, Mubarak did nothing of significance to facilitate relations between Christians and Muslims. Instead, he carried out the original Islamization of Egypt designed by those who authored the Coup of 1952 (the revolution) that overthrew King Farouk.



Today, Mubarak cries out for the rights of Arabs in Gaza but will not grant the right of safety to his own Egyptian citizens. Mubarak sponsored a U.N. law against defamation of religion but allows daily defamation of Christianity through the Egyptian regime-controlled media. Mubarak condemns Israel for being a Jewish state and not a secular one but rules a country in which the state constitution contains Islamic religious sharia law with jurisdiction over all citizens.



Beginning in 1981, Mubarak ran for office four times unopposed. In 2005, he won his fifth term. This time, he was challenged by opposition parties (Copts not included, Muslim Brotherhood excluded), which were allowed to register for the first time, but they were too weak and restricted by Mubarak's regulations to be a significant force. The emergency law Mubarak put in place the first day he took office has ever since prohibited public gatherings, including political rallies and protests, without government permission. Particularly damaging to the electoral process is the current law that can imprison a journalist whose speech is "offensive" while covering political campaigns. Imagine such deterrents to political organizing for the Copts or any other minority.



Copts living outside Egypt in America and elsewhere in the West are fighting not only the inequities of the Mubarak regime, but also the force that fuels it: the rigidity of Islam. That is why Copts are especially cautionary regarding Islamic immigration to the free world. When Copts remained largely powerless and passive under Egypt's Muslim rulers of the past sixty years, they witnessed their freedoms gradually slip away with the buildup of a religious Islamic state and a sharia-compliant nation. Copts are now very worried for America.



Muslims in America receive justice in our courts and freedom to worship, but Copts have no hope for either in Egypt. It is no surprise to Copts that America's freedom is enabling Muslims to assert their right to rule their members by the restrictive Islamic sharia law. Such allowances will weaken Western nations as it has Egypt. Copts cannot be blamed for seeing the hypocrisy in Muslims requesting special religious privileges in America while Copts in Egypt continue to be forced to worship in fear under Islam -- churches remain unsafe, and barriers remain to building and renovating churches.



In the words of former Muslim and Dutch Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, in her book Infidel, "When people say that the values of Islam are compassion, tolerance, and freedom, I look at reality, at real cultures and governments, and I see that it simply isn't so." Copts agree that Egypt is one of those realities. Will America be another?

Ashraf Ramelah

President Voice of the Copts



Christians worried about Islamic radicals
TONY EASTLEY: Many in Egypt are enthusiastic about change, but the country's estimated 10 million Christians are concerned about the influence that Islamic radicals might have on any new government.

A Coptic church in Alexandria was recently the target of a terrorist attack that left 23 dead. No one claimed responsibility, but Islamic radicals from outside the country were blamed by the government.

Bishop Suriel is the Coptic Orthodox Church's leader in Melbourne. He told Timothy McDonald that Egypt's Christians are worried that they may be targeted in the current chaos.

BISHOP SURIEL: We are concerned for all of Egypt not just for the Christian community and you know, we think the situation is very dire there and obviously, of course, we are concerned for the Copts and what the future may hold and we are concerned that any extremist group may take hold of the country and this would be a disaster, not just for Egypt but for the whole region and even the world.

TIMOTHY MCDONALD: Is there a sense among Coptic Christians that Mubarak, I guess, acted as some kind of a counterweight to some of the Islamic groups that might seek to persecute Christians?

BISHOP SURIEL: Look I think President Mubarak to a great extent was moderate. He tried to keep a balance in the country but at the same time there were a lot of issues for Coptic Christians and human rights issues that were not dealt with properly under President Mubarak.

TIMOTHY MCDONALD: The Coptic Christian church has been the subject of one fairly significant attack within the last month. Are you concerned that amid all the chaos, that Coptic Christians might be targeted again?

BISHOP SURIEL: Of course there is always that risk. Now that, you know, many prisoners have been released from jail and there is anarchy running all over the country, people are trying to protect themselves and their communities with any weapons that they can find or even sticks, standing up all night protecting their houses, their families.

I was just speaking with a distant relative of mine in Port Said, in Port Fuad in fact, and they are terrified there of hearing gunshots right underneath their house. It is just a dire, dire situation and we pray for Egypt that peace may prevail.

TIMOTHY MCDONALD: Are you hearing many similar stories?

BISHOP SURIEL: Yes, I am. I mean, not only this but I have parishioners here in Melbourne that are stuck in Egypt. They cannot get home. One of my parishioners text me, he is stuck there with his family and children in a very difficult situation and not able to find any flights.

And I am calling upon the Australian Government to do something, to send some aeroplanes there to bring back the Australian citizens that are finding it difficult to get back home to Australia.

TIMOTHY MCDONALD: Are Coptic Christians concerned about the influence that the Muslim Brotherhood might have on any new governmental arrangements?

BISHOP SURIEL: Yes, of course, we are concerned about any extremist group that may take hold. It will not be good news for all of Egypt or for the Christians of Egypt for any extremist group that may have their own political agenda. That will cause havoc and a lot of distress for Egyptians and for the Copts and we are against any extremist group that may take hold of the country and we hope and we pray that this does not happen.

TONY EASTLEY: Bishop Suriel, from the Coptic Orthodox Church in Melbourne speaking there with AM's Timothy McDonald.

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2011/s3125366.htm



مذبحة بشعة ضد عائلة قبطية بقرية تابعة لمركز مغاغة

Heinous massacre against Coptic family in the village belonging to the center of a bell

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كتب: صموئيل تاوضروس Books: Samuel Tawadros

22 طوبة 1727 للشهداء – 30 يناير 2011 ميلادية 22 Martyrs of the 1727 brick - January 30, 2011 AD



في ظل حالة الغياب الأمني الحالية الحادثة في مصر، قام أفراد من عائلة الخوالد (عائلة مسلمة) بالاعتداء على أفراد من عائلة الهوايش (عائلة مسيحية) في قرية شارونة مركز مغاغة محافظة المنيا بصعيد مصر.

In light of the current absence of security incident in Egypt, members of the family desisexyboy (Muslim family) attacked members of the family Alhoaic (Family Christian) in the village of Sharuna Maghagha Minya Governorate in Upper Egypt. حيث قام المسلمون بقتل 11 قبطي واصابة 4 أقباط آخرين إثنان منهم في حالة خطرة جداً. Where Muslims have killed 11 and wounded a Coptic four other Christians, two of them very seriously.



تم تنفيذ الاعتداء اليوم 30 يناير 2011 الساعة 3 بعد الظهر حيث قامت مجموعتين من عائلة "الخوالد" وهم مسلحون بأسلحة آلية بإقتحام منازل الأقباط عن طريق منازل جيرانهم. The execution of the assault on January 30, 2011 at 3 pm, where the two sets of family "desisexyboy" They are armed with automatic weapons Biguetham Coptic homes by the homes of their neighbors.

المجموعة الأولى من المسلمين مكونة من ابراهيم حمدي ابراهيم ومعه شخص ملثم وآخرين وقد دخلوا من منزل شخص مسلم يدعى محبوب إلى منزل يوسف وهيب مسعود (أحد الضحايا الأقباط) The first group consists of Muslims from Ibrahim Hamdi Ibrahim and his people masked and others have entered the house of a Muslim is called to the home of beloved Joseph and hip Massoud (one of the victims Copts)



المجموعة الثانية مكونة من ياسر عصام خالد وآخرين دخلوا من منزل أحمد حسين إلى منزل صليب عيد فايز (أحد الضحايا الأقباط) The second group consists of Yasser Essam Khaled and others entered the house of Ahmed Hussein to the house of Fayez Cross Holiday (one of the victims Copts)



قامت المجموعتين المسلحتين بقتل 11 قبطي وإصابة آخرين على النحو التالي: The two armed groups killed 11 and wounded a Coptic as follows:

اسماء القتلى الأقباط: Coptic names of the dead:

يوسف وهيب مسعود Yusuf and Mesut flames

سماح زوجة يوسف وهيب Joseph and wife allow flames

كرستين يوسف وهيب (15 سنة) Christine Joseph and hip (15 years)

فادي Fadi يوسف وهيب (8 سنوات) Joseph and flames (8 years)

صليب عيد مايز Cross Gala Mayes

زكية فايز بولس (زوجة صليب عيد فايز) Zakia Faiz Paul (wife Faye Cross Holiday)

جوزيف صليب عيد Joseph Cross Gala

يوستينا صليب عيد Justina Cross Gala

أمجاد عيد فايز (أخت صليب) (آنسة طالبة جامعية) Holiday glories Faiz (sister Red Cross) (Miss college student)

زكية فوزي أرمانيوس (والدة صليب) Zakia Fawzi Armanios (mother of Cross)

سنيورة فؤاد فهيم Siniora, Fouad Fahim