Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing [1]. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He is the co-author (with Paul Sperry) of Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America. [2] He can be contacted at davegaubatz@gmail.com [3].
FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
I would like to catch up with you today about the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) and its activities.
Let’s begin with CAIR’s attacks on those freedom fighters in our society who are fighting to tell the truth about the enemy we face. Recently, CAIR sent a letter [4] to the FBI and Virginia’s Tidewater Joint Terrorism Task Force condemning Robert Spencer’s training of U.S. law enforcement officers. The letter painted Spencer, as well as Pamela Geller, as essentially Islamophobes, bigots and unqualified to train law enforcement on Islamic based terrorist group issues. In a press release that followed [5], CAIR states that
Jesse Jackson has joined their campaign to get FBI head Robert Mueller to apologize for having Spencer speak.
What do you make of all of this?
Gaubatz: Thank you Jamie. I consider Robert Spencer and his close associate Pamela Geller to be leaders and among the most knowledgeable to train our law enforcement. I also consider them friends - as I do Steve Emerson, Nonie Darwish, Daniel Pipes, and the thousands of ACT members/leaders across America.
I feel it is important for readers to understand that anything said by either Jesse Jackson or CAIR should be ignored. Both have one common denominator: The truth means nothing to either. Author Kenneth R. Timmerman wrote an outstanding book, Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson, that I encourage all Frontpage readers to read.
In any case, if our law enforcement received their training in regards to Islamic based terrorist groups directly from the people/organizations I just mentioned, our country and our children would be well on its way to being secure. Robert Spencer is a professional, as are the others mentioned.
FP: Sp what do you make of letters like these being sent to the FBI by groups such as CAIR?
Gaubatz: Jamie, CAIR, Defending Dissent Foundation, Islamic Shura Council of Southern California, Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), MAS Freedom, Muslim Advocates, Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC),,Sikh Coalition, South Asian Americans Leading Together (SAALT) and such other groups as MANA, ISNA, MSA, IIIT are all Islamic based terrorist supporters. Our book, Muslim Mafia, clearly reveals the ties that CAIR and other members of the Muslim Brotherhood have to Islamic based terrorism.
When FBI Director Mueller received the letter we are discussing he should have immediately recognized the source and recognized the letter for what it is: a form of Jihad used to disrupt our law enforcement from doing their duties. Jihad comes in many forms. CAIR and others train their members to engage in the form of Jihad using the ‘pen and tongue.’ Essentially CAIR (Muslim Brotherhood) leaders rely on the ‘pen and tongue’ (articles, interviews, speeches, and other avenues of spoken and written media). The terrorist leadership relies on the physical form of Jihad (Jihad Qital/fighting) to be used by their followers such as Maj. Hasan who committed terrorism against innocent people at Ft. Hood.
Nihad Awad of CAIR and the other leaders count on low level Muslim worshippers who follow Islamic issues to target people who ‘oppress CAIR, ISNA, etc…
FP: What is your professional opinion of Mr. Mueller? Are our law enforcement officers properly trained to protect our country?
Gaubatz: Well Jamie, first of all, our law enforcement is not properly trained in regards to how to conduct proactive investigations of Islamic based terrorist groups. I put much of the blame here at the doorstep of Mr. Mueller himself.
The following statement was made by Mueller: “One of the things that we are critically seeking are special agents and support staff who are Arabic speakers.” He announced this to the audience at the ADAMS mosque, which was founded and funded by members of the Muslim Brotherhood. It has been one of the top distributors of Wahhabist anti-Semitic and anti-Christian dogma.
My private research has revealed Mr. Mueller has his agents recruiting for future federal FBI agents and Arabic translators from the same mosques who are advocating killing innocent people and implementing Sharia law. This is not a competent man in my professional opinion. Has he reached out to the Coptic Christian Community to recruit translators and agents? The Coptic Christian Community has strong ties to Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordon. They want to protect America but are being shunned by politicians and senior law enforcement.
Robert Spencer is a professional and our law enforcement needs him — and hundreds like him - to provide the truth about Islamic based terrorist groups currently operating in America. Our law enforcement officers at the street level have the desire to protect our country and most understand our country is on the edge of the ‘point of no return’ in regards to organized criminal groups and immigration. Our country is ripe for a takeover by Islamic terror groups.
FP: Share with us some of the things you have learned during your private counter-terrorism research.
Gaubatz: Jamie, I have personally conducted private counter-terrorism research at over 250 Islamic Centers/Mosques in America. I have traveled from the east coast to the west coast and in between. I returned from Florida recently and had the opportunity to obtain fresh Islamic material. The same message is still being advocated by Islamic leaders: An Islamic Ummah (Nation) is the ultimate objective of Islam, and Sharia law will dominate the world (yes liberals the world includes America).
The following is from a manual that is in 75-90% of all Sunni based mosques in America, and it is being used by CAIR National (Muslim Brotherhood) as a reference book to assist them in their war against our great country:
“The objective of Islamic Jihad is to put an end to the dominance of the un-Islamic systems of government and replace them with Islamic rule. Islam intends to bring about this revolution not in one country or in a few countries, but in the entire world.”
I encourage all of our country’s journalists to ask Mr. Nihad Awad if he agrees with the above statement by Abul Mawdudi. Mr. Awad only has two possible answers:
[1] Yes.
[2] No.
If CAIR Executives agree with Mawdudi, and therefore are dedicated to overthrowing the American government and establishing Islamic law, let me ask this: Should they not be charged, as many of their former co-workers have been charged, and subsequently imprisoned for advocating terrorism against America? And in addition for treason and sedition? Awad will likely use deception as he and others have been trained by the Saudi government to do. Awad may say he disagrees. So if he disagrees, they we must all demand that he remove all material by Mawdudi from his non-profit organization and from the ‘peace loving’ Islamic Centers that distribute this type violent material to their worshippers-to include young children.
FP: So how much danger are we in?
Gaubatz: Jamie, from everything I have witnessed and all that I know, I can tell you this: our country is already in a slow and methodical process of being taken over. There are many Mr. Muellers, Congressmen Keith Ellisons, and Senator Larry Shaws who are actually facilitating the work of terrorist groups through their open cooperation with and support of the groups, like CAIR, that give them cover.
People have to remember that the leadership of Islamic terror groups is educated and has the goal of overthrowing our country. I have mentioned on numerous occasions that organizations such as CAIR and their friends have a more organized ’source’ network than our FBI does. They are much better at recruiting and training their members than most law enforcement is capable of. The Muslim Brotherhood does not have to deal with political correctness, political red tape, or worry about funding. They do not even care about the truth. They have liberal media organizations in their back pockets. The Muslim Brotherhood has millions of dollars coming into America from their friend and leader - the Saudi government.
FP: Final thoughts?
Gaubatz: Well, we started by talking about Robert Spencer so I would like to speak about him again before we go. Robert Spencer is an American hero and Americans should never be concerned with the name calling and smears that Islamist organizations engage in. My research team and I are comprised of Christians, Jews, Muslims and former Muslims. Americans have a legitimate right to be concerned about the intentions of Islamic based terrorist groups operating inside our country and its time to put the light on the politicians and senior law enforcement individuals who are cooperating with them.
I call on all Americans to stand behind Robert Spencer and to demand that law enforcement officials who do not support him to resign from their positions, as they are clearly not qualified to perform them. Americans, specifically our children, need first-line defenders who will protect them, not feed them to the wolves.
On Aug 10, 2010, Andrew C. McCarthy summed it up [6] at National Review Online: “If any party is owed an apology or explanation from our government, it is the American people — over the government’s courtship of CAIR.”
I am stressing to your readers that the FBI under Director Mueller’s has not discontinued its courtship of CAIR - as they are leading American’s to believe. Director Mueller is simply going through the backdoor to coordinate with the Muslim Brotherhood by using ISNA, MSA, MANA, and a host of other acronyms which in reality equate to the same treasonous ideology as CAIR.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, thank you for joining us.
By Jamie Glazov
www.frontpagemag.com
[1] DG Counter-terrorism Publishing: http://www.daveg.us./
[2] Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America.: http://www.muslimmafia.com/
[3] davegaubatz@gmail.com: mailto:davegaubatz@gmail.com
[4] CAIR sent a letter: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-anti-islam-hate-group-leader-trains-va-terror-task-force-99169394.html
[5] a press release that followed: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-jesse-jackson-icna-endorse-letter-on-anti-islam-fbi-training-100125869.html
[6] Andrew C. McCarthy summed it up: http://frontpagemag.com../2010/08/11/director-mueller-say-no-to-cair/
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